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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2018, 09:25:07 PM »
Well I guess that was the noise I was hearing. Sounds like the 3 of you are saying the same thing, clutch is shot!!!   So with that, and all 3 of you know how well I destroy things can you tell me whether to buy a new clutch from Richards or do we do something different? Notice I said we hilarious I’ll buy it just tell me what and where to buy it.

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2018, 06:38:08 PM »
That Clutch has Issues !!! And that seal should have Never poped out on it's own ! Is the Vent open ?
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2018, 05:25:14 PM »
that seal should have been staked in to keep it from sliding out and what's up with that clutch.
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2018, 05:01:58 PM »
Do you think I should order a new driven clutch from Richards

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2018, 05:00:26 PM »
I don’t know I just pulled it to do the laterals and this is what I saw the last rebuild can’t be more than 100 hrs old. Can it be the seal just slipped or should I start again. The last time I took it in I had to buy the seal kit, they broke it open and said everything looked fine.

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2018, 04:38:42 PM »
Would you please look at the t20 trans seal picture and tell me what you guys think. There is hardly any up and down play, and no in and out play.
Looks bad, time for a total rebuild.
Your ramps on the driven clutch look all chewed up.
Whats going on there??
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2018, 04:31:03 PM »
Would you please look at the t20 trans seal picture and tell me what you guys think. There is hardly any up and down play, and no in and out play.

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2018, 09:45:07 PM »
Jerseys reply #25 is where I got confused where he mentions the popsicle sticks riding on the case. The picture and explanation you sent is porfect thanks whipper, so I’m going to assume I need to pull the trans to do this right?

Yes pull the T-20 out so you can do it right.
You need to drill the dowel pin hole with a good drill press or a mill,
Or the hole will end up crooked and over size.
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2018, 09:10:05 PM »
Oh ya! I like that. Nice work👍🏻👍🏻
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2018, 08:52:26 PM »
Jerseys reply #25 is where I got confused where he mentions the popsicle sticks riding on the case. The picture and explanation you sent is porfect thanks whipper, so I’m going to assume I need to pull the trans to do this right?

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2018, 08:28:04 PM »
you can replace the U-channels with the popsicle sticks.
you do need to drill a hole in the boss in the casting for a dowel pin for the popsicle stick to piviot
on. The later model case has a shorter boss in the casting so you will have to make a custom spacer to make up the difference.
these 2 pics should show it all.
the dowel pin needs to be a press fit in the case.
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2018, 05:44:37 PM »
Jersey and whipper sorry for not understanding the popsicle stick design. I’ve got everything but one last peice of the puzzle. Do I need to drill and tap the t20 trans for them to hinge on or can I just replace the u channel with the new popsicle sticks that I’m having made from whippers drawling. I’m a little confused because I thought I read where Jersey says they can ride on the t 20 housing, but in some if the pics it looks like it’s drilled and tapped or a rod to ride on?  Sorry if it’s a stupid question. popcorn

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2018, 03:31:42 PM »
I have the tool but I have a machine shop doing a bunch of work for me. Axle, brackets for the tracks, and also the strap, I also pulled both of the steering rods and he is making them new out of solid rod, not tube steel so I was going to add your drawling of the laterals, to the mix. Then just put bigger numbers on the check whistling as I wait for parts to be made popcorn

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2018, 01:24:18 PM »
Pull out the hair pin clips and adjust the bolts in the “u” channel evenly to where you can’t set them on the flat of the bolts.  Richard has a nice tool to pull the bolts forward.

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2018, 01:02:37 PM »
I haven’t measured mine on the max 4 but I know I’m close to that 11” of travel like garret
You should be able to get it down to 6” with adjusting the “u” channels without any issues. Assuming you have the stock sticks and links