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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2018, 09:58:05 AM »
here is a pic of the popsical sticks on my T20,
Looking at your pic and it looks like your popsicle sticks are
mounted wrong. They should be straight up and down.
The bottom should be on the inside of the eyelet towards the center of the case.
And the stick at the top should be on the outside of the eyelet.
But if your not having any trouble don't worry about it.
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2018, 12:13:55 AM »
here is a pic of the popsical sticks on my T20, I used eye bolts with bearing's in them on my popsical sticks and do not recommend it, use plan eye bolts.
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2018, 10:26:37 PM »
Nice Jersey I like the Popsicle over the channel myself. Also  put the Pivot pin in the center . Just a little slop here will translate to ALOT at the sticks !
Great post  ;)
You can change the distance between the lower trans band hole to the pull rod hole and change the force and required stroke at the laterals also the length of the sticks.  The geometry and pivot clearance determines allot of the slop.  Im a fan of heim joints on all the latteral connections.  The bolted connection at the popsicles is ok but probably better with a machined pin. i also use conical washers on the pin to preload the connection to reduce the slop further. You can also add a pivot point on the frame to hold the popsicles to the case without machining/ pulling the case .
Jersey you happen to have a pic of the pinned popsicles. Very interested in doing this
Thank you
will have to get back to you later with the pic

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2018, 10:24:11 PM »
How do you do the adjustment. The only way I know is with the adjustment forks I bought from Richard. Or do you just make top and bottom equal
Pull the pins and adjust the eye bolts. The case side of my popsicle rocks against the raised ridge on the case like the “U” channel setup

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2018, 07:50:51 PM »
Nice Jersey I like the Popsicle over the channel myself. Also  put the Pivot pin in the center . Just a little slop here will translate to ALOT at the sticks !
Great post  ;)
You can change the distance between the lower trans band hole to the pull rod hole and change the force and required stroke at the laterals also the length of the sticks.  The geometry and pivot clearance determines allot of the slop.  Im a fan of heim joints on all the latteral connections.  The bolted connection at the popsicles is ok but probably better with a machined pin. i also use conical washers on the pin to preload the connection to reduce the slop further. You can also add a pivot point on the frame to hold the popsicles to the case without machining/ pulling the case .
Jersey you happen to have a pic of the pinned popsicles. Very interested in doing this
Thank you
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2018, 07:09:32 PM »
How do you do the adjustment. The only way I know is with the adjustment forks I bought from Richard. Or do you just make top and bottom equal

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2018, 11:39:28 PM »
I used Whippers little drawing a couple of years ago on my MAX II rebuilt and what a difference the popsicle sticks and split shifter make IMO. I have some pics posted of it here in the gallery section.. I cant thank the guy's here enough who have built this forum and help us all out. :))

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2018, 08:51:11 PM »
Nice Jersey I like the Popsicle over the channel myself. Also  put the Pivot pin in the center . Just a little slop here will translate to ALOT at the sticks !
Great post  ;)
You can change the distance between the lower trans band hole to the pull rod hole and change the force and required stroke at the laterals also the length of the sticks.  The geometry and pivot clearance determines allot of the slop.  Im a fan of heim joints on all the latteral connections.  The bolted connection at the popsicles is ok but probably better with a machined pin. i also use conical washers on the pin to preload the connection to reduce the slop further. You can also add a pivot point on the frame to hold the popsicles to the case without machining/ pulling the case .

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2018, 08:06:45 PM »
Alright there’s something I don’t have on my headache machine,    Should I ??

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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2018, 12:37:49 PM »
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2018, 12:30:56 PM »
Didn't you have some of those made up extra ?
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2018, 12:21:10 PM »
Here's a little cartoon I made of the popsicle stick.
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2018, 09:18:58 AM »
Nice Jersey I like the Popsicle over the channel myself. Also  put the Pivot pin in the center . Just a little slop here will translate to ALOT at the sticks !
Great post  ;)
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2018, 08:54:01 AM »
Just to Add to the subject an alternative to the U channel mod.
 Here is an alternate conversion to the "U" channel using 1/4" x 1 1/4" flat bar.
The slots are the same as the "U" channel. The lateral pull point was changed to give slightly more mechanical advantage.  The new Popsicle sticks do not have a pivot but take some of the slop out of the system.  The hardware is all commercial.  I have since added a pivot pin on the case to to reduce the slop even further. 
http://6x6talk.com/gallery/78-180318080219-7171793.jpeg
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Re: Excess Lateral slop
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 02:19:27 PM »
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