Thanks wedge! I looked into it, I don't really care for that design as the argo step attaches at the bottom of the tub to the frame. To me thats just another area to leak water and cause problems. Im going to see if I can figure out how to fabricate a strong hooked flip out ladder, like on the back of a boat. I think that would be better than drilling holes into the tub. That I do not want to do