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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2017, 10:55:59 AM »
Thanks Whipper!! for all your help on this rebuild.now to put it in a machine and burn rubber!!! LOL
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2017, 10:16:35 AM »
yea, don't worry about it.
The drum could be a few thou smaller, the band might have a little less material
on it, and the steel band itself could be a few thou longer.
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Did you cut the plungers for double O-rings while you had it apart?
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2017, 10:01:19 AM »
T20 is all back together and looks as everything works right but I have 1 plunger that comes out about an 1/8 inch farther than others so I split again to double check the band placement was on the drums as should be. this common??
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2017, 09:26:46 AM »
Been there Done that !!
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 09:08:01 AM »
Perfect, drive it like a rental. dance dance dance
LOL   Oh I do!! Thats why I need this spare t-20
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 08:14:26 AM »
Perfect, drive it like a rental. dance dance dance
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 08:05:52 AM »
Ok Whipper I've got to apoligize to you for jumping the gun on this input shaft deal. Got to work today and put a gasket in and bolted the center plate tight and voila I have .023 end play!!
evidently I did not have the center plate all the way into the case yesterday when I checked the end play.
Sorry to bother you on this!!
I learned that I need to check everything possible before posting ?s about it.
Thanks again
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2017, 10:33:03 PM »

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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2017, 10:24:11 PM »
I don't use the steel washers with the bent tabs either.
where are you putting 12 washers? Are you talking about the ones above and below the planetary gears.
You have to machine the ring gear drum in 2 places also.
I put the 12 washers on the planetarys yes. The ring gear drum was already machined and had the fiber washers on both sides. The .103 I believe and the large diameter one that goes between case and ring gear drum. The drums turn good with center plate in. No binding anywhere that I've noticed but my concern is that input being to snug. As I know at least 2 of my machines have quite a bit of end play on the secondary clutch.
And these drums have the round holes in them if that tells you anything? Newer stlyle maybe?
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2017, 10:01:44 PM »
I don't use the steel washers with the bent tabs either.
where are you putting 12 washers? Are you talking about the ones above and below the planetary gears.
You have to machine the ring gear drum in 2 places also.
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2017, 09:34:05 PM »
Oh. Btw. These thrust washers are not the notched kind but I do have those so maybe someone threw some kinda washer in there that shouldn't be there. Will check that 1st thing in am
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2017, 09:28:51 PM »
What does hair tight mean, no end play at all??
Usually they seem to have more than I think they should have.
Cutting the drum aT the center plate doesn't seem like the right way to fix your problem.
I would take it apart and check all the surfaces you reworked
Ok. The only surface I cut down was for the fiber washers. It had 6 in it already and I wanted the 12 in it so I took that surface off .043 and it had the fiber washers on the inside of ring drum and against the outer housing. I didn't measure the actual end play but I will tomorrow. The thrust washers will be checked for thickness as well. And I didn't have the gasket in there either so that will make it tighter so I guess I'll let ya know tomorrow what I come up with gasket installed.

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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2017, 09:19:18 PM »
What does hair tight mean, no end play at all??
Usually they seem to have more than I think they should have.
Cutting the drum aT the center plate doesn't seem like the right way to fix your problem.
I would take it apart and check all the surfaces you reworked
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2017, 08:12:31 PM »
Ok Whipper. Have bands and everything in trans and it looks like I may be a hair tight on the input shaft. Is it possible that I could take a little bit off the drum that contacts the center plate or maybe   Somewhere else?? I need to investigate how much end play that input shaft should have after I'm done typing this.
Thanks in advance
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Re: Turning old drums to accept fiber washers
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2017, 03:10:22 PM »
The finished pin height is .840.
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 OK THANKS  WHIPPER
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