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Title: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: LittleG on November 11, 2017, 01:12:24 PM
2018 new east. Extreme shedule

Round 4 Saturday June 9th Geneva Ny

Round 5 Saturday an Sunday July 21st and 22nd Ashtabula Ohio pine lake

Round 6 Saturday. August 18th Hamlin pa .

Round 7 Saturday September 15 Ashtabula Ohio pine lake
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on November 12, 2017, 11:45:11 AM
Is Hamlin Just a Race or Trails riding also ?
Also Dose anyone have an address ??
Thanks
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: Phelpsy69er on November 12, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
2018 new east. Extreme shedule

Round 4 Saturday June 9th Geneva Ny

Round 5 Saturday an Sunday July 21st and 22nd Ashtabula Ohio pine lake

Round 6 Saturday. August 18th Hamlin pa .

Round 7 Saturday September 15 Ashtabula Ohio pine lake

So this will be the dates of the 1st pine lake races??? And trail ride?
Thanks Dave
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on November 12, 2017, 03:53:42 PM
I looked up Hamlin ,PA but got 3 different locations ?
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: james gerber on November 12, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
Hamlin speedway,
44 J&J Road
Hamlin, PA  18470
 This is dirt track racing only, not much trail riding with any of these events.
i'm guessing the 6x6 pine lake event will be around june 23  but its not posted yet.
that weekend will be 6x6 racing and trail riding just 6x6 or 8x8
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on November 12, 2017, 06:17:11 PM
that's what I was looking for. Thanks
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: Phelpsy69er on November 12, 2017, 06:18:05 PM
Hamlin speedway,
44 J&J Road
Hamlin, PA  18470
 This is dirt track racing only, not much trail riding with any of these events.
i'm guessing the 6x6 pine lake event will be around june 23  but its not posted yet.
that weekend will be 6x6 racing and trail riding just 6x6 or 8x8

That’s when I’ll be there!
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: George on December 11, 2017, 08:27:09 PM
Thinking of running in D stock with a 4 stroke.  So what rules can I use? 2/3s rule or is that an issue for  your 2 strokers. Need to know. May build racer new over the winter.

OK, now what are you up to?  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: whipperag on December 13, 2017, 10:10:21 AM
Go for it! :)) :))
Give those weed eaters a run for their money. rofl rofl
 banana banana banana banana
 dance dance dance dance
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 05:07:22 PM
If thy Raced closer to me I would build a 4 stroke racer.
MY Man Nubs could hook me up with the power and I can build the chassis so I would be good to go  ;)
But to far to and to few !
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 05:21:08 PM
Where can you see the rules ?
Got me thinking now  whistling
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 13, 2017, 06:14:48 PM
Where can you see the rules ?
Got me thinking now  whistling
unfortunately you have to go to the other site for the rules.

DOH!
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 13, 2017, 06:18:53 PM
Here is the link:


http://www.6x6world.com/forums/content/section/292-natva-1975-rule-book.html
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 06:23:19 PM
Well We know THAT  is Not going to Happen !  hilarious
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
Sorry Ascaw but when I went to look it Blocked me out as I am on my computer ! And BB has an eye on it so it is what it is.
I will try when I get to work as thy don't know that one  ;D
Thank you
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 07:45:55 PM
Wow New tech's ? That will kick up some Dust !!!
he BEST tech is a NON Racer with NO car in the game !!
I have been in Racing since I was 15 ( and that's a LONG time ago !) And Have seen track do it this way and it works !
Racers or owners that tech are Not a Good thing.
Just m 2 cents !!
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: Model Citizen on December 13, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Shouldn't be too hard to get the rules posted here on Talk. The info had to come from a racer from way back then.( Wasn't us.)  They might have even been posted on Richard's site , because his site was around way before.... Anyone feel like researching what the rules were then & what they are now & just post them.? 
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 08:19:11 PM
Ok so your telling me there Racing with 1970/1980 rule's in 2018 ?
WHAT ????
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 13, 2017, 08:31:12 PM
That's the latest rules I could find.  It's from 1975.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 08:35:51 PM
I thought thy would have a New set of rules that are up to date ?
I mean didn't thy set new rules for the other classes ?
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: james gerber on December 13, 2017, 08:41:05 PM
just happy we are back on the track, most racers are built with machines from that era
and the rules worked before. there are rules posted on needt's web sight for the six wheelers.
its not like someone is getting payed to set all this up. and the rules were updated some.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 13, 2017, 08:43:14 PM
Safety is the biggest thing.  I don't think they worry about the 6x6's for much of anything other than safety because it is so small, unless someone complains.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
just happy we are back on the track, most racers are built with machines from that era
and the rules worked before. there are rules posted on needt's web sight for the six wheelers.
its not like someone is getting payed to set all this up. and the rules were updated some.
Well That is a Good thing ! I am all about Safety !!
I will see if I can find them as I would like to see what it would take to build a racer ?
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 13, 2017, 08:51:05 PM
Wedge, it will take a lot of time and money to build a racer.  :o
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: Model Citizen on December 13, 2017, 08:51:24 PM
Safety is the biggest thing.  I don't think they worry about the 6x6's for much of anything other than safety because it is so small, unless someone complains.

Yep, safety is/was always the biggest thing. Other tech stuff was always just to keep the classes somewhat fair.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 08:58:17 PM
Even a Stock class machine ?
I have the tubing at the shop for a roll cage and the benders to build it. Plus parts and a whole machine to work with ?
I know your probably rite as I need another Project tike a hole in the head But it would be fun to Strap in again !!
I miss my racing days and looking at all my Trophies at the shop and home some times makes me say I Wonder ??
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: james gerber on December 13, 2017, 09:01:16 PM
The Following formula is to be used for four cycle engines to convert to c.c. equivalent. Multiply the displacement of the 4 cycle in cubic inches by 16.38 which converts the cubic inches to cubic centimeters and then multiply that answer by 0.60 to obtain the c.c. equivalent
D stock. (0 to 500 cc single carburetor. Air cooled engines only no liquids) 
only thing i see would be (single carb)  but stroke mod should be no problem banana
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 13, 2017, 09:04:45 PM
There you go Jerseybigfoot, build yourself a beast that doesn't look like it and only run it as hard as you have to so you don't get too many questions.   >:D
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 09:08:25 PM
I need to talk to Nubs !
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 13, 2017, 09:21:17 PM
500 cc is only 15.38 HP . So a Very small V Twin would be needed . Even a 16 hp is over .
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: joemeg on December 14, 2017, 06:16:53 AM
Wedge, it will take a lot of time and money to build a racer.  :o

 I believe the A Stock class was re-introduced to help rectify this.   banana
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: whipperag on December 14, 2017, 09:30:16 AM
In the early 70's A stock class was STOCK.
That meant that the machine could not be modified in any way,
other then seat belts and a 3 point roll cage.
It had to be just the way you bought the machine from the factory.
No carb modifications or exhaust we're allowed.
Most atv's in this class we're single cylinder engines. JLO 295's & 297.
Terra Tiger also came stock with the JLO 297.
It was a popular class because you didn't have to spend a lot of money.
Just buy one and race it.
That's how I got started.
I don't think there are very many real stock machines around any more.
Maybe it's time for some real rule changes.
Make it easier and affordable and maybe more people will show up to race.
It has to be fair.
You can't have someone with a real Stock machine race the same class with someone
who has a 22hp V-twin with dual carbs and custom headers.
They should have a special weed eater class. hilarious hilarious hilarious
Just thought I'd give you all something to talk about.
 banana banana banana banana banana
I remember 2 and sometimes 3 heat races to narrow the field down from 30-40 entries.
Watch some of my old video's, it would be nice to see that kind of turnout again.
 banana banana banana banana banana banana banana banana banana
 popcorn popcorn popcorn popcorn


Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: WFO on December 14, 2017, 11:47:23 AM
yea changes like MAGA C:-)
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: james gerber on December 14, 2017, 11:52:08 AM
We currently run 5 events in the series.
1. A class
2. four stroke
3. 2 stroke stock
4. modified
5. springer class
I'm a 2 stroke (guy) but that being said i'm open to
anything to help renew and grow the sport.
Needs to be fair but if combining 2 and 4 stroke helps.  (i'm in)
The three and four wheelers racers are going threw the same thing.(not including SxS's)
Just like us with no manufacture's making anything new or high-
performance we need to open more options.
Look at motocross they mostly all changed over from 2 too 4 stroke (i hate the sound but they are as fast)
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: ascaw on December 14, 2017, 01:35:28 PM
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a big interest in 6x6's.  We are a novelty item and a curiosity to the non 6x6ers.  It will be tough to really increase the interest and participation, especially with no manufacturers of race machines and only one 6x6 manufacturer at this time.  Without new blood in the sport it will become a thing of the past that only lives on in videos.  I'm glad we, as a 6x6 community, have a get together twice a year at Pine Lake that we can trail ride and race with like minded friends.  There is also Busco Beach trail riding down south for our southern friends.  I guess the friends out west play in the desert and sand dunes.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: George on December 14, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a big interest in 6x6's.  We are a novelty item and a curiosity to the non 6x6ers.  It will be tough to really increase the interest and participation, especially with no manufacturers of race machines and only one 6x6 manufacturer at this time.  Without new blood in the sport it will become a thing of the past that only lives on in videos.  I'm glad we, as a 6x6 community, have a get together twice a year at Pine Lake that we can trail ride and race with like minded friends.  There is also Busco Beach trail riding down south for our southern friends.  I guess the friends out west play in the desert and sand dunes.

I agree. I don't think we'll ever see the showings of the 70s again. Even now, we get a few new guys every year but then a few quit too.

Hopefully we can get some young blood in (like Don's boys). My son enjoys the 6 wheelers but he does not have the same passion for them like I have.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: Model Citizen on December 14, 2017, 07:57:54 PM
Just glad you guys back east have a place to ride WOT.  :)
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: WFO on December 14, 2017, 08:03:02 PM
it can change, a new company, a new and UPDATED product.  popcorn
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 14, 2017, 08:06:44 PM
You Better get a BIGGER box of Popcorn WFO !
From what I was told it is still some time off ? And the Max Line ? Well it may Never come back  :(
You Know Who did it in GOOD !! But I said he was going to in the beginning !!! I posted it on the other site and got slapped in the face for it But look at me know  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: WFO on December 14, 2017, 08:21:27 PM
I can wait and I have plenty of  popcorn, sometimes a lull in a product is a good thing.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 14, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
The Agile machine is slated to be out Spring of 2018 . So we will see then ?
I look forward to seeing what Galen and the boys have done !  popcorn  banana
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 16, 2017, 09:16:31 AM
Where you two at ? I see New Jersey but you guys never Pin'd your self on the map so I can't see where you are compared to myself ?
The thought of a Team splitting travel and so on is a very good idea but members would need to be somewhat close to each other also.
I was thinking of trying a Stock build but need to hammer out the details on engine and so on. As soon as I get that info I may move forward on this. I will have a machine to use next week.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: George on December 16, 2017, 10:09:36 AM
I live on Long Island. JBF and I meet up just east of Binghamton. From there we're 5 hours from Ashtabula, 1 hour from Hamlin and about 2.5 hours from the Paradise Speedway (which will hopefully be a better event next spring).

I have a place to crash so at so that easts up some of the expense of a long weekend. It also allows us to break up some of the long hauls from home to the track.
Title: Re: 2018 new east shedule
Post by: wedge on December 16, 2017, 10:23:53 AM
Got ya. And see there is No one around me that runs these as much as I do. I am in Lower PA near the PA/MD line.
That's why all these races are hard for me as there so far to get to.
We have a Dirt track rite down the road from my house . If you look at the image of where I am in my profile you can see it. Thy race Everything there and I know the owners Very Well ! won 4 championships there in my day  ;D
Plus a Dirt bike park up the road. I think I may try and talk to these guys and see if we could ether get track time or rent the track and put on our own deal ?
Never hurts to ask  whistling